Archive for July, 2007

Arizona Hunter bags Big Muley Buck

Posted by on Saturday, 28 July, 2007

Rocky Mountain Game & Fish



Read the full story at the link above. This guy was after a coues whitetail, but got a real nice mule deer instead. I’d say he came out way ahead.

Ron Green’s hard work paid off when he finally stalked close enough to take this 183-inch buck mule deer in Arizona’s Unit 5 near the northern-central part of the state.

Photo courtesy of Ron Green.

Ron Green began his 2006 deer-hunting season with a bow in hand. The 34-year-old engineer from Mesa, Ariz., intended to put his tag on an elusive Coues white-tailed deer during the September archery season in Unit 5.












Boone and Crockett World Record Mule Deer

Posted by on Wednesday, 18 July, 2007




Minimum Scores:

Category   Awards   All Time

Typical           180             190

Non-typical    215             230


Boone and Crocket Specific Guidelines:

Trophies that have been tampered with to gain an advantage obviously are not eligible for entry into the records books. Examples of trophy tampering include the deliberate removal of abnormal points from typical racks to increase a trophy’s score and/or the addition of antler or horn material. If any points are deliberately removed from antlers of any trophy by breaking or sawing them off, that trophy is not eligible for entry in the Awards Programs and/or records books. Deliberate modification of horns by adding to horn length or artificially increasing circumference measurements is also grounds for disqualification of a trophy.

Prior to January 1, 1980, the Club did not accept any repaired trophies for the records books. After that date, however, the Records Committee agreed to accept repaired trophies for the records books on a case by case basis. Trophies that have been repaired can be accepted by the Records Committee if the owner or the Official Measurer identifies the repair, and if the repair is made with original horn or antler material. The Committee still reserves the right to reject any repaired trophy, at the Committee’s discretion.

When scoring any trophies that have been repaired, no portion of the repaired material can be included in any measurement nor can any allowance be made for lost material. For example, measurements of repaired points or main beams can only be taken to the point of the break.
When measuring horns, no allowances can be made for missing horn material. For example, there are frequently large chunks of horn material missing in the area where the D-2 circumferences are taken on desert sheep. This damage probably occurs when sheep are sparring with each other. If a D-2 circumference falls on the damaged area, the circumference is still taken through the damaged area by wrapping the tape snugly around the horn.

Cat and bear skulls are also prone to being damaged. Some damage occurs naturally when bears are sparring with each other. More frequently, however, skulls are damaged when trophies are shot in the head. In any event, measurement of damaged skulls must include only the intact, unrepaired portions of the skull.

Older deer racks often have a varnish coating. It seems that varnishing trophies must have been a common practice in the “good old days,” since it seems it is generally only older racks that surface with varnish on them. Because all velvet must be removed from antlers before they can be measured, people may assume all varnish must be removed from antlers before they can be officially measured. This is not so. Basically, the antlers can be scored, so long as the varnish doesn’t have any effect on the final score. However, if there are pockets or spots of thick varnish that affect any measurements, the varnish must be removed before the trophy can be officially measured.

Official measurements cannot be taken until the antlers, horns, skulls or tusks have air dried at normal room temperature for least 60 days after the animal was killed. If the trophy has been frozen prior to cleaning, as is often the case with skulls, the 60-day drying period begins once the cleaning process is complete. The drying process for trophies that have been boiled or freeze-dried starts the day they are removed from the boiling pot or freeze-drier, respectively.

In the case of picked up trophies, the 60-day drying period also applies. If it is clear from the condition of the antlers, horns, skulls or tusks that the trophy has dried for more than 60 days, one does not have to wait another 60 days from when it was found to measure it. However, it is necessary to enter the approximate date the animal died on the line provided for the date of kill on the score chart. Trophy owners may be asked to provide a brief history for “picked up” trophies or trophies of unknown origin to substantiate the approximate date of death.

As keeper of the Records of North American Big Game, the Club has the inherent responsibility to maintain the integrity of the records. On occasion the validity of some entries is questioned. The Records Committee treats such questions as serious matters. If, upon completion of the Club’s investigation, it is found that the trophy was inappropriately entered, the matter is taken to the Records Committee. The typical action by the committee in such cases is to remove that trophy and all others that that particular trophy owner has entered into the records books and to preclude any future entries from that hunter or trophy owner, as the case may be.

Shrinkage of horns (pronghorns, goats, etc.) has been a concern of many trophy owners over the years. It is acceptable to remove horns from the skull, clean them, and then have them reset with a bonding substance as long as the horns are not altered in the process. Thus, a bonding substance can be used but its presence cannot enhance the horn’s basal circumference. Alteration of the basal circumference is grounds for disqualification of the trophy.

Every effort is made by the Club to ensure that the location of kill data for trophies listed in the records books and Fair Chase magazine are accurate and correct. Space is provided on both the score chart and the Hunter, Guide and Hunt Information form to include this data for each entry.

Please keep in mind that we are looking for the following information when completing the blanks provided for the location of kill information. For trophies taken in the lower 48 states, we need the county and state (e.g. Lawrence Co., PA) where the trophy was taken (or found). If the county is unknown, we need to know the state where it was taken. A standard road atlas is used to ensure the correct spelling of counties in the lower 48 states.

For trophies taken in Canada and Alaska, we need the name of the nearest geographic feature (e.g. Post River, AK; Glacier Lake, BC; Cataract Creek, AB) that can be found on a map or in a geographic atlas of place names for that state or province. The Club has a small library of geographic atlases and topographic maps used to ensure that the name of a geographic location is a nationally accepted name (not simply a local name) and that it is properly spelled.

At times we have problems collecting geographic information from Canadian and Alaskan hunters. For example, a whitetail buck taken in an agricultural area in the prairie provinces may be a hundred miles from the nearest geographic feature. However, while we shy away from using the names of towns, since most animals are not actually killed in a town—only near it, we will use towns if no other location of kill information is available.

If there is more than one geographic feature that could be listed for a trophy, we prefer to list the feature closest to the site of kill. For example, Divide Lake is a better location of kill for a mountain caribou than the Mackenzie Mountains that covers thousands of square miles. Similarly, it is not very useful to list a location of kill for a whitetail deer as Lake Winnipeg since it stretches for hundreds of miles through the heart of Manitoba. For trophies taken in Mexico we simply need to know the state it was taken in.

If the location of kill or find is not known, the location should be listed as “unknown.” Of course, an unknown location of kill is unacceptable for trophies separated from subspecies by boundaries. For example, an elk trophy from Washington State cannot be accepted in the Roosevelt’s elk category with an unknown location of kill since we must be able to verify that it came from an area where Roosevelt’s elk are located.

It is rare that we ask an individual to pinpoint the exact location of kill for his or her trophy on a map. However, we may need this information for categories of big game separated by boundaries. If we receive this information from a trophy owner, the information remains confidential and is never divulged to anyone for any reason.

When completing the location of kill information on the score chart and HGH form please be as accurate as possible. This will continue to add scientific validity to the records listings and ensure that the location is correctly spelled.

The Boone and Crockett Club, because it recognizes the trophy and not the hunter or owner, accepts hunter-taken trophies harvested with: firearms, including muzzle loaders, pistols, shotguns, etc.; archery tackle, including compound bows and traditional archery equipment; crossbows; etc. All hunter-taken trophies are eligible for entry into the Club’s Awards Programs and records books, so long as the equipment is legal in the state or province where the animal is harvested. (Pope and Young Club only accepts trophies taken with a bow.)

The Boone and Crockett Club, because it recognizes the trophy and not the hunter or owner, also accepts trophies that are picked up (e.g. winter kills, road kills, etc.) and trophies of unknown origin (e.g. garage sales, taxidermists, attics, etc.). Trophies accepted with unknown locations of harvest are eligible only if they are for a category without a boundary.

Shed antlers, as well as any set of antlers with a split skull plate, are not eligible for entry in the Club’s Awards Programs and/or records books, regardless of how well they have been restored to their original condition. This is because the inside spread, which is an integral part of the final score of antlered trophies, cannot be accurately determined if the skull plate is absent or split. If an official measurer suspects that a set of antlers he or she is measuring is either shed antlers or a split skull, he or she should contact the Club’s headquarters for instructions on x-raying that trophy. This policy applies to trophy specimens of deer, caribou, moose and elk, as well as pronghorn.

Trophies taken on tribal/communal lands in line with sound game management practices, taken in full compliance with tribal/communal laws or regulations regarding such hunting, and with possession of the usual state/provincial hunting license where applicable, and taken in full compliance with the Boone and Crockett Club’s rules of Fair Chase, will be fully accepted as entries for both awards and publication in the records books.

The Boone and Crockett Club does not accept antlers in “velvet” for entry into the Awards Programs and/or records books unless the velvet is removed before official measurements are made. Remnants of velvet are permissible as long as they do not affect any measurements.

Pope and Young Mule Deer World Records

Posted by on Wednesday, 18 July, 2007

World record Typical Pope and Young Mule Deer

World record Non-typical Pope and Young Mule Deer

Pope and Young Minimum Scores

*Mule Deer, Typical


*Mule Deer, Non-Typical


Montana Mule Deer Records

Posted by on Tuesday, 17 July, 2007





2007 Arizona Mule Deer Harvest Forecast

Posted by on Tuesday, 17 July, 2007


Excerpt from Mule Deer Fanatic Yahoo group moderator:

Overall, mule deer numbers are up a bit from, say, any time in the last 5 years. Winters here rarely kill deer. We are certainly still in a drought condition even though there has been some well-timed relief that has benefitted deer. Water and its quality is always an issue here. Drought has a significant effect on deer here in Arizona, but it’s effect is multi-faceted. Because feed is not as good in drought, nor as abundant – deer are in worse condition than normal. In my opinion this makes them more succeptable to disease, to getting hit on the roads, to predation, to hunting pressure, and to gestation and delivery problems.

The Arizona Game and Fish has increased the number of deer tags this year, which I think is a mistake. (I would much rather the GnF decrease predators instead of decreasing hunters, but since predators are not being decreased, we cannot afford to have more hunters).We are no where near our carrying capacity and the extra pressure will make it even harder for the deer herd to recover. The North Kaibab herd is still dismal, even though there are some very large bucks to be found there. The extra tags to be given there is especially unfortunate.

Predation is a very serious issue here. I estimate the predator populations as follows: lions: 4-6000, bears: 2-6000, coyotes: 40-60,000. These numbers should serve to illustrate that drought (nor any other weather condition) is not what is limiting our deer numbers – compared to predators.

I think there will be more bucks seen and killed in 2007, mostly yearling bucks. I think the older class buck numbers are down from last year. Antler development, from what I have seen, has been hurt by feed quality, and seems to be a little late this year. I don’t think our fawn/doe ratio will exceed 0.5/1.0. I have done some counts of my own this year and my results are: for every hundred deer, 30 are yearlings – of which 18 are bucks, with another 10 older bucks and 60 older does. So the pre-season buck/doe ratio is 28% (64% yearlings). The carryover fawn/doe ratio is 50%.

The Arizona Game and Fish wants to move hunting seasons to low-success time periods, so that they can increase the number of tags even further. If a rancher was losing his livestock to predators, I’ll bet he would like to be able to sell livestock he didn’t have just like the GnF does.

Arizona should have a better harvest than in quite a while due to having a few more bucks and more hunters. I predict that there will be even fewer mature bucks next year than this year.


Huntin Fool

Posted by on Sunday, 15 July, 2007

Garth Carter (cousin?) and his son Jason offer hunter services that you might want to check out at Huntin Fool.

Tell Garth you were referred to him by Mule Deer Fanatic.

Here are some of their monster muleys:



Another Carter bags Buck

Posted by on Saturday, 14 July, 2007

Mikes Outfitting in Alberta has something to show when it comes to Magnum Muley Bucks:

Brad Carter (cousin ?) buck

Brad Carter buck

I think you ought to sign up with Mike. Tell Mike you found him at Mule Deer Fanatic.

Here’s a few more:

hunnicutt buck Arnell buckLeventini buck

May buckSanderson buckPerkes buck

Alberta Canada Monster Muley

Posted by on Saturday, 14 July, 2007

Cris Draper has this story on his website: Utah Outdoors

Big Alberta buck


This mule deer buck green scores 407 3/8. The current world record scores 355 2/8. It will smash the record. The current world record was shot in Alberta, Canada in 1926. This buck was shot this year on the Alberta and Saskatchewan border.

Tell Cris you found his site at Mule Deer Fanatic.

Montana 2007 Deer Season Dates

Posted by on Saturday, 14 July, 2007


Deer & Elk – archery September 1, 2007 October 14, 2007
Deer & Elk – backcountry
HD’s 150, 151, 280 & 316
September 15, 2007 November 25, 2007
Deer & Elk – general October 21, 2007 November 25, 2007

2007 Montana Hunt Regulations

Posted by on Saturday, 14 July, 2007